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So as you may or may not know, I started a Beatle Slash RP,
thebeatleworld 

We're still looking for members, and I'd love for you to join :]

We have a George, Paul, John, Ringo, and a Pattie so far. But I really, really, really, want a Brian! Oh, it'd be so fun :DD

So if you want to be Brian [or any other Beatle-related person] you can email me at andsoshewrites@yahoo.com or you can send me an instant message on AIM at jamespmacca.

For more information go here.
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Obituaries (Newspaper clippings part 3)

From the New York Times, August 28, 1967:

"One did everything. One worked very hard. One shouted from the rooftops about the group when there was no enthusiasm for groups. People thought you were mad, but you went on shouting."

In these words, Mr. Epstein explained once to a reporter how he had helped the Beatles rise from relative obscurity to world fame.

The brash, pink-cheeked, energetic young man was in many respects as much a gee-whiz success story as the Beatles themselves.


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beatles-MrX

"But did he earn his reputation?" (Newspaper clippings part 2)

"Beatles-Epstein Tie A Mutual Discovery"
By Derek Taylor
Washington Post, September 4, 1967.

It wasn't so much a case of Brian Epstein discovering the Beatles as of the Beatles discovering Brian Epstein... Paul McCartney told me a year ago, "You know, it was really us who found him." He didn't intend to diminish the skillful, tactful manipulations of Epstein as dedicated Beatles-protector, guide and negotiator, but rather to show that things are not always what they seem.

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beatles-MrX

"A disc of real merit" (Newspaper clippings part 1)

A letter to the Times, July 20 1966.

"Sir--, Reading a column about the pop world (July 16) in a newspaper like yours is almost as pleasant an experience as going to a recording studio and seeing a record being made by a talented pop artist. It is so realistic and far away from the ephemeral 'fave rave' world which pop tends to savour.

It is, however, my experience, contrary to the general belief which even injected itself into your column, that it is not entirely true that singles only become favourites through highly commercialized exposure to the public. I believe that a disc of real merit, and here I mean, of course, one that genuinely appeals to the public buying such discs, will become a hit through just the minimum of plays on either the recognized or pirate wavelengths. And it is not difficult to obtain play for a disc of such merit even without the pressure of interested parties.

Possibly, this sounds somewhat puristic and, in any event when I am concerned with a record my organization will pull out all the stops in order to promote. And such promotion will undoubtedly contribute to the artist generally. However, hit for hit, that is my belief.

Yours faithfully,

Brian Epstein

Hille House, 9 Stafford Street, W.1., July 18."
beatles-MrX

Newspaper clippings

I've been trawling around in the archives of the Times (London) and the New York Times and found some interesting Brian-ish snippets here and there. Obituaries, of course; an account of the abortive involvement by Nems in a staging of the Oberammergau Passion Play in Britain; and most interestingly a rather mean-spirited article written by Derek Taylor soon after Brian's death.

I was thinking that I could post some of the highlights, but I want to check first whether anyone is interested before I do all that typing...
Hilary

The Fifth Beatle movie

Well, I know I'm new to the fandom, but even so I'm excited about this movie that we've been promised. I've been pondering my wish list, so I thought I would share with you my ideas about what I'd like to see and what I wouldn't like to see.

I want an actor who can capture equally the charm and style of Brian Epstein along with his insecurities and vulnerabilities. He has to have the confidence necessary to draw the Beatles along to stardom and yet that diffidence that is so clear in his interviews. It's a tall order. eppylover's post about John Simm has definitely convinced me that he would be a good choice, but I would be equally happy to see a young unknown actor. My emphasis is definitely on "young," because I think that's an important part of the Brian Epstein puzzle. A manager in his mid-to-late thirties talking about "the boys" would seem like... just not the right dynamic. So, not too old and also not too skinny, if you please.

I want a movie that is balanced, not in the sense of being an objective documentary, but in the sense of providing a picture of its main character as a well-rounded person. It would be easy to make a movie that was either a hagiography or a gossipy hatchet-job. The interesting thing about Brian Epstein is that many of the things that made him great were also the things that made him miserable in the end. Somehow that needs to come across.

I *don't* want a movie that simply hits all of the highlights of his life. Too many biopics are merely a recitation of the "greatest hits" of their subject's life, and they end up being completely shapeless and pointless as a result. Obviously there are scenes that I'd like to see (getting high with the Beatles and Dylan; getting thrown off the plane in Manila; things like that), but I'd be happy to sacrifice them if it meant that the movie would make more of an artistic whole as a result. Focus is needed as well as a recognition of the complexities of the man's life. Oddly, though, it is often easier to get across a subtle message by focusing down on a few things rather than by shallowly touching on everything.

Anyway, those are my thoughts, for what they're worth. I have this terrible habit of trying to write screenplays in my head, so you never know, you may hear more from me yet.
Hilary

"Birth of the Beatles"

Recently I've been watching some of "Birth of the Beatles" online (as much as Yahoo Video offers, anyway), and I was wondering what people thought of the portrayal of Brian Epstein in that. I certainly think it could be argued that they played him a little over-the-top. He came across as very highly strung, although I gather that the man himself was highly strung at times.

On the whole I felt that though the portrayal was exaggerated, he still came across as a very sympathetic character within the movie. And I suppose that is the important thing.

Do you agree? Disagree? I'd love to hear opinions, as I'm very interested in the way that historical characters are depicted in films.
Graham Chapman as Brian

Who in Eppy's life would YOU like to see played in the Brian Epstein movie?

In this board of the forum,
regarding characters who might be in The Fifth Beatle movie
(other than Brian and The Beatles themselves)
I submitted this guesslist off the top of my head
(since even I am not privy to the details) ~~


*Early Days*

Harry and Queenie
Clive Epstein
Joe Flannery
Sam Leach
Vera Brown
Bob Wooler
Allan Williams
Sonia Seligson
... (stagename: Stevens)
Rita Harris
Alistair Taylor
Cilla Black
Gerry Marsden
*Beatlemania Days*

Cyn, Mo, Pattie, Jane
Neil Aspinall
Mal Evans
Alf Bicknell
Derek Taylor
Ed Sullivan
Tony Bramwell
Tony Barrow
Brian Sommerville
Murray the K
Larry Kane
Dizz Gillespie
Nat Weiss
*Brian's Last Year*

Alma Cogan
Lionel Bart
Clive's wife Barbara
... and baby Joanna
Dr Norman Cowan
Joanne (Newfield) Petersen
Peter Brown
Geoffrey Ellis
the "rent boys"
... who showed up too late
Bryan Barrett
Dr John Gallway
Jimi Hendrix

Jonathan (with the movie) posted a little teaser for your response!
Unless dealing with this would make you think too much.... ;P
Here it is:
Hi everybody,

Good to see some new members signing up for the boards.

I'd be happy to drop some clues on some other characters that are in the script, but I'd love to see everybody else's thoughts first.

Who would you like to see in Brian's story? Who do you think deserves to be there?

~Jonathan

The Fifth Beatle Movie Forum

The Eppylover is burning with curiosity now!